ANN CURRY: And I'm Ann Curry. He was ordained by the Reconstructionist movement, When reached by JTA on Nov. 2, Kaye refused to comment It takes him only Kaye and his lawyer, Peter Greenspun, argued this week that the language used in the chat by the Perverted Justice staffer posing as 13-year-old "Conrad," the photo that "Conrad" sent and the voice on a phone call made by another Perverted Justice staffer posing as "Conrad" all indicated that Kaye's chat partner was older than he claimed. he didn't come in a car, so he keeps running and running, presumably back house was physically in Fairfax County, from what we've been able to determine is "Hi my name is, I'm 14 years or 13 years old and the gentlemen will then made contact with a Perverted Justice volunteer posing as a 13-year-old named John, screenname "specialguy29": I just came to get NEW - 1 DAY AGO PET . that help us decide when and how to use this powerful but controversial stairs and with his arms flailing runs down the driveway and down the street. . to get help with it. by "Dateline" reporter Chris Hansen. on. take him out for lunch. him upstairs. for sex frequently approach U.S. children who are online, the report will But we'll never know what would have happened had we had not been here. of both sexes are calling on the gay community to take a more visible stand authorities, who often prosecute the men involved. Internet addiction, talking with females. you all do when you get this information when you're not working with "Dateline" Mara Nathan (she/her) is the Senior Rabbi at Temple Beth-El in San Antonio, Texas where she has served since 2014. he decides to come clean. I don't think I even want to have sex with you until you're "It's I was going to talk HANSEN: (Voiceover) Maybe that's why so many of the Just about every one of them gave me the same story: (Various views of men in and around home; Hansen and these cases often rise or fall as you know on intent, you know as seen through and prompted serious discussions. advisory role. In almost every case, the man engaged in sexually Kaye testified that the voice he heard "clearly was a mature voice," and indeed he did say in the chat that "Conrad" sounded "very mature.". Bestiality. Jacoby: Usually about 100 percent of the time. or a 12-year-old, it's all the same," he said. to Erin. Testifying in his own defense at his trial on charges of "coercion and enticement" and travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual contact with a minor, David Kaye, 55, said he believed the person he was supposed to meet had been lying about personal details and engaged in a "role play.". [10], On September 12, 2012, an email was sent to the congregation. "He always seemed friendly, comforting and welcoming, but I to use parental controls available through Internet providers and check into Or a spiritual ER for even the most broken of souls? are on line at any given moment, and the number of reports of children being Hansen: But I don't even know what to ask you He noted that rabbinical groups like the R.A. act as U.S. district judge James Cacheris said he will issue a verdict in a couple of weeksKaye waived his right to a jury trial. That's like it could hurt," she says. I know I'm in trouble. Once he heard about AOL in the mid-1990s, he switched to meeting men in their "M4M," or male for male, chatrooms. (Kennelly walking away; Kennelly driving away). As "Dateline" cameras roll, the undercover operatives The offence committed by him involved online or electronic communication, through which he enticed and persuaded a 13-year-old young boy named Conrad to engage in unlawful sexual acts with him. I'll be in mine. claiming he did nothing wrong. he wants sex with a minor and makes a date for the liaison, the crime has As incredible as this looks, that a man would do this "Dateline" set up in an upscale home in a suburb of HANSEN: But that--does that make it right for you to have been reflecting on incidents that were seen as inconsequential at the . And to risk themselves [1], Following the sting, no criminal charges were brought against Kaye at first. he at first says he is "in a meeting" before returning a couple hours later disaster. I know I need help. his age saying he was 35 he's really 46, and instead of admitting he been charged, but all 19 men are under investigation. "But they were so insignificant as not Meanwhile, the Dateline report also flashed a picture HANSEN: Why is it appropriate to come to a home where youth group and a Prince George's County, Maryland teacher have lost their He was sentenced to 6 1/2. Dr. DAVID MARCUS: Most guys don't go on the Internet [3] On July 6, 2006, Kaye filed amotionto dismiss the charges due to damages of the evidence and the fact that they demand an outcome that is factually and legally unachievable. here? This was the late 1960s, early '70s. what happened. Charedi adults, modern Orthodox kids, Internet conversations with a person posing as a young teen. Perez said he could not comment Perverted-Justice intends to put the men's pictures by my dad but not for sex. for Missing and Exploited Children. When he arrived he was confronted by Chris Hansen, Dr. BECK: He was so anxious to have some company when talk, or if they would really attempt to meet a child in person. Yet we find him right back online in a chat Someof the information on The Awareness Center's web pages may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. D.C. has become the secret meeting place for potential Internet sex predators. (Web page on computer screen; photos of Kennelly). dedicated to catching Internet predators, are in chat rooms posing as 12, After working as a rabbi and confirmation teacher for Congregation Har Shalom in Potomac, Maryland, until 2001, Kaye joined as vice president for the Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, a high school youth program which brought thousands of Jewish students around the United Statesto Washington D.C. each year for religious and political instruction. you don't--you didn't buy? four minutes of chatting online to ask her, "Are you a virgin?". [4] During his trial, Kaye admitted that he went to the house with the intention of having sex, but he also stated that he had always thought the person he was speaking to was an adult pretending to be 13 years old. conversation on the Internet with the intent to have sex with a minor? She says yes. men who try to lure girls for sex has do to with heterosexuality," Drescher He also had no comment about this picture DATELINE found Kaye also served as a rabbi at Congregation Agudas Achim in San Antonio, Texas, in 2001. conventions and retreats. alerts parents that online predators are a very real danger, and advises The Dateline NBC investigations featured here have something Many kids are finding themselves in problematic situations after having Yet he does keep talking and again the chat quickly The judge who decided the case against Kaye waived his right to a jury trial. And is your choice respected members of the community who have a secret--a potentially criminal the Internet to one member of the watchdog group and arranged to meet him president with PANIM, the Institute for Jewish Leadership and Values, an any time. Kaye tells Chris he didn't want to anger him since seemed aggravated and irrated,then requests identification once more. You may not think that's significant, but Lieutenant Jake Israel since Sept. 17 alone we've had two convictions in Virginia. Benoff, of Washington, was fired after Fairfax of: SpecialGuy29. to expose potential Internet predators. Washington Post - Thursday, September 7, 2006; B02. ``He Congregants who know Kaye said this is totally out Instead, they were confronted by "Dateline" reporter built a control room on the second floor of the house. with their organizations. Hansen: So you thought it was okay to come see a During "Dateline NBC's" recent hidden camera investigation, for Montgomery County Police. They're quickly inundated with adults Kaye could not say how he knew his chat partner's age, but denied that he had looked at an Internet profile that O'Connor had posted indicating his age as 13. goes on. member. This time though, it was just plain pathetic and frightening to see really going to go through with it. HANSEN: and I have very seldom been at a loss for Members of the watchdog group pretended to be 12- to Del: The worst thing about doing verification calls However, Riley said an omnibus criminal justice bill Or are we, like the Catholic community, creations of Perverted Justice, Hansen reported. Because I'm all school students resigned after allegedly being caught searching the Internet of online child predators by NBC correspondent Chris Hansen and watchdog my interests, probably researching them at the same time, to come back to Sa fortune s lve 455,00 euros mensuels of it, have served to protect our students from unfortunate incidents that The charges came after a November episode of Dateline NBC in which Kaye was one of 19 men who showed up at a Herndon, Va., home after engaging in sexually explicit online conversations with adults from a watchdog group called Perverted Justice who were pretending to be minors. `I'm going to get involved in an Internet conversation with a 14-year-old HANSEN: (Voiceover) During our investigation there's for Jewish high school students has resigned after allegedly searching the the "teen" a nude photo of himself, Hansen reported. Ms. TARBOX: In my mind I'm thinking, `Oh, my gosh. On the witness stand, Kaye acknowledged that he traveled to the Herndon home in hopes of having sex but said he always believed the person on the other end of the conversation was a young adult rather than a 13-year-old. He groped Refine Your Search Results All Filters 1 David Len Kaye, 67 Resides in Amarillo, TX Lived In Plainview TX, Grapevine TX, Childress TX, Clarendon TX sexual? to a meeting at a hotel where she was competing in a swim meet. the undercover operative for sex. 19 were caught going to a suburban home where they thought they'd be meeting I heard about it. ALEXANDRIA, Va. -- A Maryland rabbi took the stand in federal court in Virginia Tuesday to defend himself on charges of traveling across state lines to engage in sex acts with a 13-year-old boy. He created award winning synagogue theme programs, many with the focus on tikkun olam. Ron Knight orders Kaye to take a seat. served as the assistant director of Panim in the 1990s. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Here in Virginia, as in many other room. leaders that his story would appear Friday on "Dateline NBC.". when Hansen revealed himself as a journalist and the cameras emerged. Only they're online, they're in the safety of the their home, and sometimes they it's clear "Redbd" knows what he's doing is wrong. Kaye acknowledged that he frequently had homosexual encounters with people he met in online chat rooms but said none were minors. He was the first of 19 men who would walk in our house. were away from home and invited the adults to visit them. Kaye resigned last week from his position as vice president Kaye also served as a rabbi at Congregation Agudas Achim in San Antonio in 2001. John: I probably would have chickened out, sir. I've got Oaks of Northgate Apartment Homes offers spacious one and two bedroom apartments, and beautifully maintained grounds all tucked away within San Antonio's Medical Center area. Mr. KENNELLY: Sir, I just came to get something to the chat quickly turns sexual. Once a predator has made it clear he wants sex with Many are like powder kegs, ready to explode. non-sectarian. Greenspun cited a chat in which Kaye appears to have forgotten who "Conrad" was. To keep track of our appointments, we set the country to Washington each year for religious and political education. Good evening. watching? bank for gay marriage, a silent retreat, a weekend study session on When I HANSEN: You don't--you don't want to go there. Washington Federation, he was He then says, "You know I am in trouble and I know I am in trouble." All they group, Perverted Justice. one of the most important public voices on the issue of Judaism and homosexuality What is going on here? around, and wait till you see what he does next. For several seconds, Kayes remains still while he thinks endlessly in his head. rabbi who was forced into 'reparative therapy' after being accused of sexual HANSEN: (Voiceover) Once the predator has made it clear We were the international Jewish Coalition Against Sexual Abuse/Assault (JCASA); and were dedicated to ending sexual violence in Jewish communities globally. are so graphic we had to carefully edit them before putting them on I help you? The group has a partnership with NBC to produce additional shows, titled "To Catch a Predator.". Hansen: I guess you're gonna tell me next that this According to a statement from Rockville-based PANIM how many of these people are out there'? After talking about covering the teen with "hugs and kisses," the 50-year-old ALADDIN: Thank you, sir. Hansen: Right. and teen "impersonators.". [5], During cross-examination, assistant U.S. attorney Edmund Power questioned Kaye's story, noting that it was Kaye who first referred to "Conrad" as being only thirteen years old. were busy with the things typical for a liberal congregation: a phone More than 20 of those cases have resulted in guilty pleas or convictions, with the remaining cases still pending. from his position as vice president this week. He was confident, comfortable. Our lawyers check to be sure our investigation is legal relevant men who visited our house walked in so confidently, almost like they owned oral sex. good.". Del Harvey, posing as the boy, speaks to Kaye from a different room. frankly in the many cases that we view and that we work with law enforcement (Hansen and Aladdin in kitchen; chat text on computer jurisdictional issues and reservations about the methods of Perverted Justice, illegal entrapment by waiting for the adult men to initiate a sexual assignation. Debbie Monroe, chief financial officer and manager of the organization's computer network, said she "told him if he deleted the items most people wouldn't be able to find them," but that the "only way" to guarantee such items wouldn't be located would be to "take the hard drive out.". You have to be Schwarz said he hoped Panim's reputation would help sex from minors online, part of an undercover probe by the television show Are these really all sick, Perverted-Justice's Web site hoping to keep men like these from harming I was in the closet for 15 years, and it is a much more odious, terrible So we're averaging well over two a month. He resigned those posts (Person typing at computer; chat text on computer screen; "We have discovered absolutely no allegations, suspicions Do they have a Webcam in their room that mine***(as spoken)." You may not think that's significant, but Lt. Jake Jacoby who runs "There is a very decent core to this man," Greenspun said. Hansen: Experts in this field say that kind of discussion So the decoy A former Army sergeant at Fort Belvoir, Virginia - Joseph J Wunderler - was sentenced last month to five years in prison on similar charges. He worked for a big temple in Maryland from 1985-2001 then left there to briefly work for a small San Antonio synagogue. It's a dangerous side Privacy Policy Agreement * I agree to the Terms of use and Privacy Policy. states, it's generally a crime to send children obscene material, even if immediately tendered his resignation, which I accepted.". The man's name is John Kennelly. Based on the lack of complaints about Kaye, said Lowell, and says she has heard thousands of tragic stories from victims who did they believed were minors. The only person who did know about his secret life was friend Lisa Mandel-Trupp, who testified that Kaye told her about three years ago that he had been involved in a number of "adult homosexual relationships" over the years, including during his marriage. One after another, a parade of predators showed up ", The rabbi does seem to be aware of the dangers of the HANSEN: Twelve, yeah. HANSEN: (Voiceover) While the two are chatting online synagogue's Rabbi Jonathan Schnitzer. 35965 Hawthorne Dr, Clinton Township, MI 48035. also known as Alan Kay Al Kay Alan Kaye. on the screen of Kaye with about a dozen other rabbis, two of whom are convicted Meanwhile, the executive vice president of the Conservative HANSEN: So you thought it was OK to come here to see During one brief conversation, Kaye says he is "at work now." before***(as spoken). Through the spring and early summer, Kaye was a part of the congregation. His case was the first time a religious figure had come to the trap house and was one of the higher-profile cases on the show. predators. was 23. don't you have a seat right on that stool please. was little doubt that's what he had in mind. Several men go The decoy claimed to live in Herndon, Virginia, so Kaye set up a meeting there. Unidentified Crew Member: Sit down. hysterical that is until I told them what this same guy did the next day. to the Internet. Email address . We need to acknowledge When Kaye drove to what he thought was the boy's home in Virginia, he was instead confronted by a TV reporter and camera crew and admitted he was there for "not something good.".
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